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De Griekse schuldencrisis nadert nu een climax, omdat Griekenland per 30 juni geacht wordt om bezuinigingen door te voeren om de schulden te betalen aan het IMF en de Europese Centrale Bank. In ruil krijgt Griekenland dan weer een lening van €7.2 miljard. De kapitalistische economie wordt meer en meer onbegrijpelijk, maar als Griekenland faalt om zijn schulden te betalen, dan schijnt het hele systeem in te storten. Omdat ik daar niets van begrijp, heb ik wat artikelen en YouTubes verzameld over deze dreigende ineenstorting van de Euro. En nu maar hopen dat het goed afloopt!

Ewald Engelen: Vijf jaar voorgelogen over Griekenland

Burgers van Nederland, vijf jaar lang bent u voorgelogen over de Griekse crisis. Vijf jaar lang hebben pers en politiek u steeds maar weer dezelfde halfwaarheden en leugens op de mouw gespeld (uitzonderingen daargelaten).

Syriza agrees to EU austerity measures
By Christoph Dreier
24 June 2015

New details were released on Tuesday on the Greek government’s proposal to its international creditors. The wide-ranging cuts go much further than all previous plans and will inevitably provoke strong social opposition.

The government, led by the Coalition of the Radical Left (Syriza), provided the heads of European Union (EU) governments with a list of proposed cuts on Monday evening to secure the last tranche of the bailout of €7.2 billion. Without this payout, the highly-indebted country is threatened with bankruptcy.

The proposals signify nothing less than Syriza’s capitulation before the EU. The Greek government has crossed all of the red lines it formulated when it took power, presenting a comprehensive austerity package which will worsen the already catastrophic social conditions in Greece.

The eurozone crisis by the numbers

The financial crisis in Greece and other eurozone countries has been dragging on for years. We take a closer look at how hard some countries were struck, and how they’re trying to get back into shape.

Greece’s economy has shrunk dramatically since 2008 – the year before the US financial crisis fully spilled over and inundated Europe. Indeed, the economic collapse paralyzed Athens’ economic output far more than that of the other euro members.

By 2010, the situation had gotten so dire that a total of five eurozone states had to seek help from the European Union: Greece, Ireland, Portugal, and Cyprus formally applied for bailout programs. They received loans from the EU, the European Central Bank (ECB) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF). In return, they agreed to implement austerity measures which were supervised by the creditors.

In December 2013, Ireland left the program, with Portugal following suit in May 2014.

While Brussels did throw Spain a liquidity lifeline in 2012 to help save its moribund banks, the southern European country never formally entered a bailout program, and was not subjected to external review of its finances by the IMF.

Today, Greece and Cyprus are the only countries still on financial life support.

What Pisses Me Off About Greece’s Debt Crisis duurt 12 minuten.

Stephan Molyneux

Gepubliceerd op 5 feb. 2015

Did you know: 80% of the bailout money went to European Union banks that were Greek bondholders, and not the Greek economy.

Breaking with Creditors’ Power: The Importance of the Greek Debt Audit

While the world’s media focuses on the bailout negotiations, a debt audit is underway to prove much of Greece’s debt illegitimate, illegal and odious

By Fanny Malinen

The world’s eyes are once more on Greece. I had the opportunity to visit Athens in mid-May, joining a knowledge exchange organised by the Political Economy Research Centre at Goldsmiths, University of London. The Greek government had just days before paid their international creditors with money from pension funds and other public organisations. There seemed little reason for optimism that the government would not give in to the pressure and accept the austerity that would come with the next debt payments.

The Debt Truth Committee published its first findings this week. ‘Greece not only does not have the ability to pay this debt, but also should not pay this debt, first and foremost because the debt emerging from the Troika’s arrangements is a direct infringement on the fundamental human rights of the residents of Greece,’ it states. ‘Hence, we came to the conclusion that Greece should not pay this debt because it is illegal, illegitimate, and odious.’

Greek Democracy Is Failing

By Paul Craig Roberts

June 24, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – The Greek debt is unpayable. It is simply too large to be repaid. The austerity that the EU and IMF have imposed on Greece has worsened the problem by driving down the Greek economy, thus making the burden of the debt even heavier. Despite the obvious fact that the EU’s austerity policy is a failure and cannot succeed, the Greek “debt crisis” drama continues.

A solution was possible at the beginning of the “crisis” prior to the economy being driven down by austerity. The debt should have been written down to the amount that the Greek economy could service or pay. This traditional solution was unacceptable to creditors, to the EU, and to the European Central Bank. As I explained in my book, The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism (Clarity Press, 2013), Greece’s creditors, the EU and the European Central Bank have agendas unrelated to Greece’s ability to pay. The creditors are determined to establish the principle that they can over-lend to a country and force the country to pay by selling public assets and cutting pensions and social services of citizens. The creditor banks then profit by financing the privatization of public assets to favored customers. The agenda of the EU and the central bank is to terminate the fiscal independence of EU member states by turning tax and budget policy over to the EU itself.

In other words, the Greek “sovereign debt crisis” is being used to create a precedent that will apply to every EU member government. The member states will cease to exist as sovereign states. Sovereignty will rest in the EU. The measures that Germany and France are supporting will in the end terminate their own sovereignty, very little of which actually remains as they do not have their own currency and their foreign policy is subservient to Washington.

Default and a turn to Russia is the only possible way out for Greece. The entire world would benefit from this course of action as Greece’s departure from the EU and NATO would begin the unraveling of NATO, Washington’s principal mechanism for creating conflict with Russia. In the end, all of Europe and the rest of the world would thank Greece for derailing the violence that will result from Washington’s effort to assert hegemony over Russia.

Greece under NATO pressure not to reduce military budget amid crisis

Russia, Greece sign €2bn deal on Turkish Stream gas pipeline

Greece is Being Blackmailed. Exiting the Eurozone is its Way Out

By Costas Lapavitsas

June 26, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – “The Guardian” – A few days ago the Greek government submitted a list of proposals hoping to break the deadlock with the “institutions” – the European Commission, the International Monetary Fund and the European Central Bank. The government basically agreed to tough primary surpluses: 1% in 2015 and 2% in 2016. To achieve these targets it proposed to raise VAT on a range of widely consumed goods as well as imposing a host of taxes on enterprises and families of “high” income. It also proposed substantial savings on pensions. The measures added up to roughly €8bn over 2015-16, and would be immediately implemented.

The package is certainly deflationary at a moment when the Greek economy is again on the threshold of recession. There is little doubt that it would contribute to output contraction and higher unemployment in 2015-16, particularly as there is little prospect of being offset by an investment programme funded by the EU. It is a major retreat by the government of Syriza.

Greece – The Way Out

By Peter Koenig

June 26, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – What the troika is doing to Greece these days is the pinnacle of financial terrorism. It is economic waterboarding. It is blackmailing of the first degree. These people are neoliberal fascists, putting the Greek government before a dilemma – ‘either you present us with an acceptable list of austerities, or we will prepare one for you’ – literally. An austerity plan you better accept, lest you may default and being expulsed from the European monetary union and maybe even the EU. That is their threat. That is what Brussels does to a brother; to one of theirs. There is not a shred of solidarity left in this miss-called ‘Union’. This ‘Union’ doesn’t deserve existing.

‘No-Solidarity’ is the brand mark of Europe. It is depicted all over the map. Another glaring example is the EUs refusal to aid the trans-Mediterranean refugees, the victims of wars and conflicts inspired by Washington and carried out in full complicity with Europe – Libya, Syria, Sudan, Iraq, Egypt, Somalia, Central Africa, Yemen – and more.

In Greece the troika is applying a strategy of ‘reverse objectives’. The EU does not want Greece or any other member, no matter how weak economically, to leave the Eurozone. A Grexit may risk causing a chain reaction. By threatening to expulse they are inciting Greece to beg for mercy.

CrossTalk: Greek pain duurt 24 minuten.

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33 Reacties op “De stinkende schulden van Griekenland”

  • Groene Wolf:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4Ayo4mYZg
    Europa en het einde van de democratie. Euromania Uncovering the EU full documentary Door de Nederlandse journalist Peter Vlemmix

  • Boudine:

    Greferendum looms: Greeks rush to ATMs, EU saddened, closes door

    Gepubliceerd op 27 jun. 2015

    After months of tense negotiations with its European creditors, Greece is letting the people decide what to do next. The Prime Minister’s announced a referendum of the bailout conditions in a week.

    This is what democracy looks like!

  • Boudine:

    Voor wie meer wil weten over de Grexit-crisis:

    De volgende bezuinigingsronde die Europa wil opleggen aan Griekenland, ziet er zo uit:

    http://delangemars.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/eisenIMF-ECB-ECaangriekenland.pdf

    Hogere belastingen, minde sociale voorzieningen, weg met de pensioenen en zo voort!

    In Delphi is een congres gehouden over de schulden van Griekenland:

    Greece – The Delphi Declaration

    By Peter Koenig – on behalf of The Delphi Initiative

    During the weekend of 20 and 21 June 2015 a forum of international scholars, scientists, economists, sociologists, political analysts – met in Delphi Greece to discuss Greece and Europe. The organizers were the so-called “Delphi Initiative”, sponsored by the Lyssarides Foundation in Cyprus, the Greek Institute for Research on Political Strategies, the Russian Institute for Globalization and Social Movements, and the Forum Mondial des Alternatives, France.

    The forum ended with a Media Conference on Monday 22 June https://youtu.be/AEALxsSWRC4 and with the issuance of The Delphi Declaration – see below.

    The world must realize that the so-called troika – IMF, European Central Bank and European Commission, is literally blackmailing Greece and subjecting her to outright economic torture.

    During the past days, Mr. Tsipras, Greece’s Prime Minister, has made considerable concessions to the creditors in Brussels and Washington – but none were good enough. Instead they, the notorious troika, have presented Greece with an austerity package which is simply unacceptable for the Government – and for the people.

    Pensions have already been cut by close to 50% to an unlivable level especially for the poor – the troika requires more cuts. Already now most of public services and assets have been privatized, hospitals and schools closed – they want more. The public administration has already been reduced to a minimum, causing huge unemployment – they want more. They also want additional taxes which further affect the poor.

    European governments, European institutions and the IMF, acting in close alliance with, if not under direct control of, big international banks and other financial institutions, are now exercising a maximum of pressure, including open threats, blackmailing and a slander and terror communication campaign against the recently elected Greek government and against the Greek people.

    They are asking the elected government of Greece to continue the “bail-out” program and the supposed “reforms” imposed on this country in May 2010, in theory to “help” and “save” it.

    As a result of this program, Greece has experienced by far the biggest economic, social and political catastrophe in the history of Western Europe since 1945. It has lost 27% of its GDP, more than the material losses of France or Germany during the First World War. The living standards have fallen sharply. The social welfare system is all but destroyed. Greeks have seen social rights won during one century of struggles taken back. Whole social strata are completely destroyed, more and more Greeks are falling from their balconies to end a life of misery and desperation, every talented person who can leaves from the country. Democracy, under the rule of a “Troika” acting as collective economic assassin, a kind of Kafka’s “Court”, has been transformed into a sheer formality in the very country where it was born! Greeks are experiencing now the same feeling of insecurity about all basic conditions of life, that the French experienced in 1940, Germans in 1945, Soviets in 1991. At the same time, the two problems which this program was supposed to address, Greek sovereign debt and the competitiveness of the Greek economy have sharply deteriorated.

    De banken zijn nu gesloten. Er zal a.s. zondag een referendum worden gehouden: in de Euro of uit de Euro. Volgende week weten we meer.

    “This Blackmail-ultimatum”
    Alexis Tsipras Address to the People of Greece

  • Boudine:

    Greek debt line: Banks close, ATM lines mount & IMF payment looms

    Gepubliceerd op 29 jun. 2015

    The chief of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has made a last-ditch effort to keep Greece from leaving the Euro. He said that the creditors’ terms are not – quote – “stupid austerity” and that the Greek people should “not commit suicide out of fear of death” in the upcoming referendum on those terms, on July 5th. Mr. Juncker also repeatedly pointed out that he’s not the one to blame for putting the country on the brink of financial ruin and now let’s head to Athens, where the people are anxiously following the news from Brussels. RT’s Peter Oliver and Harry Fear have more on the ongoing Greek crisis.

    ‘Greece should Grexit which is fantastic, they could restart their economy’ – Max Keiser

  • Boudine:

    Even voor de duidelijkheid: de vraag die wordt gesteld in het komende referendum is niet: in de Euro blijven of er uit stappen?

    De vraag is: aanvaarden we de bezuinigingen die Brussel ons oplegt, of niet? Als de uitslag JA is, dan volgt er een nieuwe ronde van bittere armoede in Griekenland. Is het antwoord NEE, dan mag Brussel zijn eigen hoed opeten en zien we wel wat er verder gebeurt.

    Hoewel Griekenland vroeg om een week uitstel voor de betaling van de schuld die vandaag vervalt, heeft Brussel (o.l.v. Jeroen Dijsselbloem) daar NEE tegen gezegd. Morgen verkeert Griekenland daarom in staat van wanbetaling van deze stinkende schulden. En dan? Van een kale Griek kun je niet plukken…

    A Bad Day For Democracy

    By Yanis Varoufakis
    Greek Finance Minister

    June 28, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – The Eurogroup Meeting of 27th June 2015 will not go down as a proud moment in Europe’s history. Ministers turned down the Greek government’s request that the Greek people should be granted a single week during which to deliver a Yes or No answer to the institutions’ proposals – proposals crucial for Greece’s future in the Eurozone. The very idea that a government would consult its people on a problematic proposal put to it by the institutions was treated with incomprehension and often with disdain bordering on contempt. I was even asked: “How do you expect common people to understand such complex issues?”. Indeed, democracy did not have a good day in yesterday’s Eurogroup meeting! But nor did European institutions. After our request was rejected, the Eurogroup President broke with the convention of unanimity (issuing a statement without my consent) and even took the dubious decision to convene a follow up meeting without the Greek minister, ostensibly to discuss the “next steps”.

    Can democracy and a monetary union coexist? Or must one give way? This is the pivotal question that the Eurogroup has decided to answer by placing democracy in the too-hard basket. So far, one hopes.

    National briefing by Yanis Varoufakis, Minister of Finance of Greece, after the 1st meeting session

    Europe’s Attack on Greek Democracy

    By Joseph E. Stiglitz

    June 29, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – NEW YORK – The rising crescendo of bickering and acrimony within Europe might seem to outsiders to be the inevitable result of the bitter endgame playing out between Greece and its creditors. In fact, European leaders are finally beginning to reveal the true nature of the ongoing debt dispute, and the answer is not pleasant: it is about power and democracy much more than money and economics.

    Of course, the economics behind the program that the “troika” (the European Commission, the European Central Bank, and the International Monetary Fund) foisted on Greece five years ago has been abysmal, resulting in a 25% decline in the country’s GDP. I can think of no depression, ever, that has been so deliberate and had such catastrophic consequences: Greece’s rate of youth unemployment, for example, now exceeds 60%.

    It is startling that the troika has refused to accept responsibility for any of this or admit how bad its forecasts and models have been. But what is even more surprising is that Europe’s leaders have not even learned. The troika is still demanding that Greece achieve a primary budget surplus (excluding interest payments) of 3.5% of GDP by 2018.

    A New Mode of Warfare
    The Greek Debt Crisis and Crashing Markets

    By Michael Hudson

    June 29, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – Back in January upon coming into office, Syriza probably could not have won a referendum on whether to pay or not to pay. It didn’t have a full parliamentary majority, and had to rely on a nationalist party for Tsipras to become prime minister. (That party balked at cutting back Greek military spending, which was 3% of GDP, and which the troika had helpfully urged to be cut back in order to balance the government’s budget.)

    Seeing how unyielding the opposition was, Syriza’s stance was: “We would like to pay. But there’s no money.”

    This kept throwing the ball back into the troika’s court. The Institutions were so unyielding that Syriza’s approval rating in the polls rose by 13% by June. Greek voters became increasingly incensed at the Troika’s demand for further pension cuts and privatizations.

    Tsipras and Varoufakis were willing to pay the IMF with the IMF’s own funds, in what V. called “extend and pretend.” But their only interest in keeping current on debt was to obtain additional funding that could be used to pay domestic pensions and other basic government budgetary expenditures.

    The basic tactic in such tensions between creditors and debtors is clear: once debt repayments exceed new loans, stop paying.

    So when The Institutions made it clear that no more credit would be forthcoming without Syriza adopting the old Pasok/New Democracy capitulation to Troika demands, Tsipras and Varoufakis decided it was time to call a referendum eight days hence, on Sunday, July 5.

  • Boudine:

    OXI

    ‘We didn’t join Europe for this!’ Thousands of Greeks rally against austerity

  • Ben:

    Hi Boudine,

    Recent een avond over deze problematiek georganiseerd in Delft:
    https://www.facebook.com/events/104450386556589/ met verslag.

    Was geslaagd.

    Groeten, Ben

    • Boudine:

      Dank je wel, Ben.
      Deze reactie vond ik het meest ter zake doen:

      Als je links kijkt, dan zie je recht niks…
      Griekenland heeft echt enorme onontgonnen voorraden aan olie, gas, goud, zilver en ander erts. Genoeg om de hele schuld af te lossen.
      “Even” de pijleiding-infrastructuur aanleggen (Gazprom, bedankt) en het Griekse gas kan ontgonnen worden.

      Het doel van de Troika is kennelijk de voormalige Russische methode: alles privatiseren en de winst gaat naar de 1% van het wilde Westen.

  • Boudine:

    Greece’s Downfall and Redemption

    By Finian Cunningham

    June 30, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – “Sputnik” – Decades of exorbitant military spending account for Greece’s present downfall under an Olympian-sized debt. European governments and news media portray the problem of Greece’s financial woes as public spending profligacy.

    The truth is that Greece’s debt mountain has been incurred from years of wasteful military splurging. That is the tragic downfall of the country, which European creditor governments and the mainstream news media tellingly ignore.

    Even after five years of economic catastrophe, Greece’s annual military budget amounts to $4 billion, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. That translates to 2.2 per cent of the nation’s GDP – a colossal drain on the economy.

    To put Greece’s military spend into perspective, it is double the ratio that most other EU countries currently spend on defence. For example, Germany spends 1.2 per cent of GDP, Italy 1.1 per cent, Netherlands 1.2 per cent and Belgium 1.1 per cent.
    If Greece were to cut its outsized military budget by half that would generate $2 billion in one year alone, which would pay off its immediate bill to the IMF and help the country reach a 1 per cent budget surplus that the Troika has set for 2015. In other words, that source of finance would obviate any further need for cutting pensions and workers’ salaries.

    During the decade up to the onset of crisis in 2010, Greece was regularly spending 7 per cent of its GDP on military. Some estimate that during that decade the country spent a total of $150 billion on defence – or half of the current debt pile.

    As Greek economist Angelos Philippides told the Guardian back in April 2012: “For a long time Greece spent 7 per cent of its GDP on defence when other European countries spent an average 2.2 per cent. If you were to add up that compound 5 per cent [difference]… there would be no debt at all.”

    Moreover, Greece’s past military expenditure was mired in corruption.

    Lees even door en wie zijn de wapenleveranciers? Jawel: Duitsland en Frankrijk! Wat een corrupte boel!

  • Boudine:

    ‘Greece not for sale’: PM Tsipras urges ‘no’ vote on Euro bailout referendum

  • Boudine:

    Een duidelijk artikel met de tijdslijn van de onderhandelingen, in het Nederlands:

    Eurolanden wijzen Griekse vraag noodsteunpakket af

  • Groene Wolf:

    http://tegenlicht.vpro.nl/afleveringen/2011-2012/Goldman-Sachs-en-de-vernietiging-van-Griekenland.html Dit is een aflevering van 13 februari 2012. Er wordt uitgelegd hoe Griekenland in de problemen is gekomen en de kwalijke rol van Goldman Sachs daarbij. Diverse insiders van de bank leggen het een en ander uit. De toen nog onbekende Griekse professor en huidige minister Yannis Varoufakis kwam hierin aan het woord. Misschien het vermelden waard: Nederlandse documentaires doen de ronde op US Sites en blogs. Deze bij SGT.com en Peter Vlemmis Uromania bij Global research.

  • Groene Wolf:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/greece-again-can-save-the-west/5459692
    Auteur Paul Craig Roberts. Waarom we (Europese) burgers de Grieken moeten blijven steunen (ook ons hun eigen belang).

    • Boudine:

      Dank je wel, Groene Wolf.
      Even een snel antwoord, want ik wil naar het strand:
      Yanis Varoufakis: Why We Recommend a NO in the Referendum – in Six Short Bullet Points

      Negotiations have stalled because Greece’s creditors (a) refused to reduce our un-payable public debt and (b) insisted that it should be repaid ‘parametrically’ by the weakest members of our society, their children and their grandchildren
      The IMF, the United States’ government, many other governments around the globe, and most independent economists believe — along with us — that the debt must be restructured.
      The Eurogroup had previously (November 2012) conceded that the debt ought to be restructured but is refusing to commit to a debt restructure
      Since the announcement of the referendum, official Europe has sent signals that they are ready to discuss debt restructuring. These signals show that official Europe too would vote NO on its own ‘final’ offer.
      Greece will stay in the euro. Deposits in Greece’s banks are safe. Creditors have chosen the strategy of blackmail based on bank closures. The current impasse is due to this choice by the creditors and not by the Greek government discontinuing the negotiations or any Greek thoughts of Grexit and devaluation. Greece’s place in the Eurozone and in the European Union is non-negotiable.
      The future demands a proud Greece within the Eurozone and at the heart of Europe. This future demands that Greeks say a big NO on Sunday, that we stay in the Euro Area, and that, with the power vested upon us by that NO, we renegotiate Greece’s public debt as well as the distribution of burdens between the haves and the have nots.

  • Interessant artikel van econoom/geo-politiek analist Peter Koenig: Greece – The Way out.

    “June 26, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – What the troika is doing to Greece these days is the pinnacle of financial terrorism. It is economic waterboarding. It is blackmailing of the first degree. These people are neoliberal fascists, putting the Greek government before a dilemma – ‘either you present us with an acceptable list of austerities, or we will prepare one for you’ – literally. An austerity plan you better accept, lest you may default and being expulsed from the European monetary union and maybe even the EU. That is their threat. That is what Brussels does to a brother; to one of theirs. There is not a shred of solidarity left in this miss-called ‘Union’. This ‘Union’ doesn’t deserve existing.
    ‘No-Solidarity’ is the brand mark of Europe. It is depicted all over the map. Another glaring example is the EU’s refusal to aid the trans-Mediterranean refugees, the victims of wars and conflicts inspired by Washington and carried out in full complicity with Europe – Libya, Syria, Sudan, Iraq, Egypt, Somalia, Central Africa, Yemen – and more.”

    Lees verder hier: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42253.htm

    • Ben:

      Klopt. Het is kapitalisme in zijn totaal ontmenselijkte fase. 150 jaar geleden al voorspeld door Karl Marx.

      Groeten, Ben

      • Boudine:

        Beste Ben,
        Is dit niet al reeds voorspeld in de Openbaringen van Johannus?
        Volgens mij voorspelt Marx helemaal nix. Hij maakt slechts een correcte analyse van de kapitalistische economie.
        De gevolgen zijn helaas voor de nabestaanden… De huidige schulden-economie was toendertijd immers onvoorspelbaar!

      • Ben:

        Hi Boudine,

        Ik ben niet zo bijbelvast, maar wbt Marx heb je gelijk. Hij doorgrondde het kapitalistische systeem tot in ieder detail en dan is het geen voorspelling meer.

  • Boudine:

    De stinkend rijke Griekse reders betalen geen belasting!

    het echte verhaal waar de Griekse miljarden steun is gebleven!

    De rotte appels van de Grieken

    The Troika Turns Europe Into A Warzone

    The real picture is completely different. Tsipras and Varoufakis are the vanguard of a last bastion of freedom fighters who refuse to surrender their country to an occupation force called the Troika. Which seeks to conquer Greece outright through financial oppression and media propaganda.

    RT talks to ‘Yes’ & ‘No’ supporters in Athens ahead of Sunday’s referendum

    Gepubliceerd op 3 jul. 2015

    Two rival rallies took place in Athens on Friday ahead of Sunday’s referendum on austerity measures proposed by Greece’s creditors. Polls suggest the ‘YES’ and ‘NO’ votes are more or less evenly split. RT’s Ilya Petrenko visited the rallies of both camps.

  • Interview: John Perkins, schrijver van het boek The Economic Hitman, over Griekenland. http://thesaker.is/greece-is-being-hit-theres-no-doubt-about-it/

    Wat ik niet wist is dat hij adviseur is geweest in IJsland, dat zich terug heeft getrokken uit de EU en besloot de schulden niet af te betalen. Hij geeft ook advies aan Griekenland. Heel interessant deze achtergrond.

  • Boudine:

    Swiss solution for Greece: two currencies – Euro co-designer

    Gepubliceerd op 3 jul. 2015

    The future is unclear not only for Greece, but for the Eurozone itself. One of the architects of the Euro, Bernard Lietaer thinks hard liners in bailout negotiations are only twisting the knife in the wound.

  • Groene Wolf:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/no_author/greece-has-fallen-victim/
    Interview met John Perkins (Confessions of an economic hitman)
    Zijn boodschap aan het Griekse volk. Jammer dat Varouvakis ook door de mand lijkt te vallen.

  • Groene Wolf:

    http://www.burgercomite-eu.nl/hadden-wij-maar-1-zon-parlementarier/ (Video)
    Reuring in de Deutsche Bundestag. Die Linke politicus Dr. Gregor Gysi neemt het op voor de Grieken en veegt Merkel en Schauble de mantel uit.

  • Ben:

    Het gaat helemaal niet om Griekenland, maar om de banken:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGT9mCbG1Lo&feature=youtu.be

    Groeten, Ben

    • Boudine:

      Ben, dat is nu niet meer helemaal waar. De vorige lening (ik meen in 2010, maar het kan ook later zijn geweest) kwam uit de schatkist van verschillende landen. Deze lening werd gebruikt om de stinkende schulden af te betalen die Griekenland had aan de banken. Het geld ging dus niet naar Griekenland, maar naar Duitse en Franse (en andere) banken. De lening van de ECB die de Grieken nu niet hebben gekregen, was bedoeld om de schulden af te lossen aan die verschillende landen.
      Maar je hebt wel gelijk: dit alles was nooit bedoeld om Griekenland te redden!

      Explained: Who owns Greece’s debt?

    • Ben:

      Hi Boudine,

      Wat je ziet is dat de banken de wereld financieel aan het plunderen zijn. Dat doen ze overal ook in Griekenland.

      Groeten, Ben

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